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I went to Yorktown fishing pier just to check it out today.

Now here is some interesting pictures. Look at them and tell me what you think is going on. Besides the no fishing off the rocks. Today people were all over Yorktown. Nice weather brought them out. The Park was closed at Yorktown and really for no reason. Just government interference. But by looking at the pictures tell me what you think about fishing etc.




 

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Should have known, no takers on the pictures. When I was just starting to fish I found this magazine that I thought was out of this world for fishing. I still think it is a really great magazine. Fishing Facts is the name of it. I believe it is still published. It is the magazine that teaches fishing. It used to be loaded with diagrams and pictures of what to look for when fishing.
When I looked at the water at Yorktown it dawned on me why the fishing there today would be bad. The wind was blowing accross the river starting from this side to the other or from the south. The water was being blown to the other side with also a low tide. It also was a warm day so the fish would be seeking deeper water in my opinion. I talked to a person on the pier from Norht Carolina and he said that even the boats that were trolling did not do any good. I would figure that as being right too.
According to Fishing Facts magazine when the wind blows across a lake the fish will go with it. The cover they want will also float over there. It also had pictures of rivers and told you how to read a river to be able to spot where the fish would probably be lying .
It is a freshwater magazine from the Midwest. It is also put out by the bait companies I think. The information in it really proved right today when I went to Yorktown. I believe it was right on the money. Just my thoughts. Wouldn't mind having it today, I am still learning.
 

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Should have known, no takers on the pictures. When I was just starting to fish I found this magazine that I thought was out of this world for fishing. I still think it is a really great magazine. Fishing Facts is the name of it. I believe it is still published. It is the magazine that teaches fishing. It used to be loaded with diagrams and pictures of what to look for when fishing.
When I looked at the water at Yorktown it dawned on me why the fishing there today would be bad. The wind was blowing accross the river starting from this side to the other or from the south. The water was being blown to the other side with also a low tide. It also was a warm day so the fish would be seeking deeper water in my opinion. I talked to a person on the pier from Norht Carolina and he said that even the boats that were trolling did not do any good. I would figure that as being right too.
According to Fishing Facts magazine when the wind blows across a lake the fish will go with it. The cover they want will also float over there. It also had pictures of rivers and told you how to read a river to be able to spot where the fish would probably be lying .
It is a freshwater magazine from the Midwest. It is also put out by the bait companies I think. The information in it really proved right today when I went to Yorktown. I believe it was right on the money. Just my thoughts. Wouldn't mind having it today, I am still learning.
Well, before we got kicked out I liked a spot down there on a SW wind. As long as the tide was right(which it was not when you took those pics) the area was sheltered from the wind and the fish would bite.

Kinda a moot point now as you can't fish there anymore...

BTW, the pier can be good, just remember to reel in fast if you cast off the front as there is a snag out there.
 

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I have heard that. I saw the man there had his poles out on both sides. I think it is a shame what York county does to fisherman and boaters. The county is for the rich people and not the average person. The rich have the money to fight it and enfluence the board while the regular people just don't have any say so.
York county is in the process of building a softball and soccer complex on Old Denbigh blvd. I believe it is for soccer too not sure. I mean that place is costing a bundle. Then you see what they did for the fisherman and fisherwomen at Yorktown. That really is a slap in the face. They even close the park there so you can't get to it to fish without walking a long distance. At the other end of RiverWalk Landing they could have put some parking and encouraged fishing beside the museum. Don't worry that was far from thier thoughts. I do know that many people would love to see people fishing and be able to take thier kids to see the fish that are caught.
I saw that happen at the Seagull pier.
 

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You say a snag out there. Why didn't York County take care of that. I bet I can tell you why. Another way to discourage fishing there. In my opinion that pier needs to go out farther and the T needs to be a lot longer on each side. It will never happen.
 

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You say a snag out there. Why didn't York County take care of that. I bet I can tell you why. Another way to discourage fishing there. In my opinion that pier needs to go out farther and the T needs to be a lot longer on each side. It will never happen.
The amount of construction it would take a build a pier there is cost prohibitive. It's gets DEEP out past that pier, and fast. Trying to build a fishing pier in 40+ feet of water isn't going to happen.

I hate to say this too, but a few fishermen ruined it for all the fishermen at Yorktown, as is the case in most other situations where they crack down on fishing access. People were blatantly trespassing, and they got called on it. That ruined it for everyone else. If there's anyone to point the finger at, it is unfortunately us in this case.
 

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That is a no brainer. Then you deal with the few fisherman and not all of them. If someone speeds do you ticket everyone? That is a lame excuse to stop the fishing there. I don't buy it at all. I have been to the fishing pier on two occasions and both times they did not clean out the trash can there.
It was blowing around and I picked it up . I cam there to day and that same trash is there. York County is not doing the job it should be doing. We pay the taxes and are not getting the service we should have.
I believe York County is using that person or persons to appease a rich person who is complaining. I bet that is going on for sure. You always have complainers and the more they complain the more they get. It is easier to punish the fisherman than shut up a complainer.
 

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You say a snag out there. Why didn't York County take care of that. I bet I can tell you why. Another way to discourage fishing there. In my opinion that pier needs to go out farther and the T needs to be a lot longer on each side. It will never happen.
Actually if they would just allow fishing off the sides it would make a big difference in the number of people that can fish the pier. When I first got back into salt water fishing we would go there. Sure it would be packed but at least we caught some nice fish.

BTW, there is not a pier out there that "takes" care of a snag.
 

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Basstardo, you are right, I forgot about the channel drop there. Atleast they could extend the ends of the existing pier. Maybe they will but I doubt it. It is as little as possible that they could do to appease the fisherman and fisherwomen.
 

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I understand that about a snag. But if it is all the way accross the front then it is a problem. I am trying to learn all I can about Yorktown pier and fishing Yorktown. If the snag is just one area then it can be a benefit to fishing.
 

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There are a ton of underwater cables/power lines in that area. Some of them are marked on nav charts IIRC.

As for punishment, complaining, etc, and dealing with a few fishermen, who has time? Budgets are shrinking, counties are taking drastic cost cutting measure, and the man can't be there all the time. Simplest solution from a management standpoint is to shutdown all access, make a few examples of people, and the complaining and rule-breaking stops. Simplest solution from our point of view is to correct those who are breaking the rules as best you can, and follow the rules yourself. In the end though, there's always that 10% that screws it up for the other 90%.
 

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There are a ton of underwater cables/power lines in that area. Some of them are marked on nav charts IIRC.

As for punishment, complaining, etc, and dealing with a few fishermen, who has time? Budgets are shrinking, counties are taking drastic cost cutting measure, and the man can't be there all the time. Simplest solution from a management standpoint is to shutdown all access, make a few examples of people, and the complaining and rule-breaking stops. Simplest solution from our point of view is to correct those who are breaking the rules as best you can, and follow the rules yourself. In the end though, there's always that 10% that screws it up for the other 90%.
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together you and everyone else in the organization can make a difference in the whole state and maybe this can help solve the problem at yorktown
 

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That is why I am here, trying to find out what is going on and put together some information. This way we can get something done about it. National park Service, Hmmm well could be right. I would like to know for sure. I believe you are right but will find out more for sure. We have to get our information together and it has to be right. Thanks.
 

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The waterfront isn't NPS property, it's York County. If you look at the NPS maps, the county property is a different shade, and isn't considered part of the NPS' domain. I've never seen a NPS Cop down there, only the county mounty. They county mounties are the ones who gave everyone the boot as well, so if you want to call someone, they'd be the place to start.

The other thing to remember is that the no fishing signs have been there all along. Ever since the place was rebuilt. No fishing on the rocks is nothing new, it's just being enforced now.
 

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I have found a way around all the BS at Yorktown. The OldTown Limo! Get a Yak or Canoe. Launch under the bridge and paddle around to the floating docks. It is awesome in Oct/Nov.
That being said, the fish are all gone. I had virtually no love in my last 2 outings. I'd try elsewhere until the summer, when the HORSE Croakers infest Yorktown.
 

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I don't know if it was my childhood perspective, but I remember the Yorktown pier being much much longer. Almost double/triple the length that it is now. My dad and I would go down to the end and reel some huge 17 inch + croakers all day long. The pier was always packed in the spring/summer and everyone had a blast. Sadly...it is not like that anymore.
 
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