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I'm taking the wife to the beach 9/28 - 9/30 and we want to do some bottom fishing off the pier. What piers are the best and what size rod and reel and tackle will we need? Thanks Ron
 

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There are some good piers in the area, but you might want to think about going North to the Cherry Grove Pier. It has seen some good runs around this time of the year.
Tackle size depends on what you are after, but if you are generally bottom fishing you'll need a 7 to 9 ft rod with about 12lb test line. Two hook bottom rigs with 2 ounce weights and size 4 hooks are plenty big for fall run spot or croaker. Use bigger 1/0 hooks and live bait for flounder, puppy drum, or trout. Spot love cut bloodworms or even earthworms. Shrimp is a good all around bait, but its better to buy it fresh before you get to a pier, all they will have is frozen which is not as good.
 

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If you want to have fun and go to a nice pier with nice people on it, dont go to cherrygrive. Dont get me wrong there are a few good people on that pier, but for the most part there are a some who just dont need tp be allowed to fish. Try out Apache pier. The past few weeks we have been catching lots of blues on bottom rigs with live minnows or shrimp. THe tackle described above should work fine. Also we have started to catch spots everynow and then, give it a few weeks and the spot run should really start. Just go the apachepier web site and check out the prices and give them a call if you need any info not posted there.
 

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I've never fished the Cherry Grove pier, but I have known people who would drive an extra half hour or more to fish 2nd Ave rather than fish Cherry Grove. It's reputation precedes it, and I've never heard anything nice about some of the people who fish it. Apache is nice although I have only fished it once. I loved the swimmingpool/baitwell!
 

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I did fish Cherry Grove a few years ago, and I certainly didn't feel welcome there, either by the fishers, or even more by the folks running it. We took a look a year later, and it seemed even more unfriendly. Even though its about 200 yards from where we'll be staying in 3 weeks, I think I'll stay on the beach and surf cast.
 

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Not only is CHerry Grove not as nice, its about twice the price. My dad and I fished Apache Saturday and there were a bunch of blues being cought on cut mullet, live mullet, shrimp and bloodworms. Most were caught in the area around the shelter and stage on the left side if looking out to sea. I caught a 16in flounder and there were several more caught, all on live finger mullet. The mullet are really thick and if you have a cast net and can use it, they are pretty easy to catch fromt he pier. Another good thing about Apache, they let you use nets while Cherry Grove doesn't. If you can't catch them yourself the pier sells them but I would wait until somebody catches more than they need and is giving them away. Or I'm sure somebody out there with a net would be happy to get you some.
 

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Thanks for all the replies. The reels i have are some Zebco 33's and i have some Abu Garcia 6500's. Are the Zebco 33's enough to fish for spots and croakers? Seems like the 6500 is going to be overkill for the smaller fish, but this all I have. Thanks again Ron
 

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Those zebcos will do the job for the spots and croakers. You should get some gotchas for the blues and use the 6500's to throw them with. Or put some bottom rigs out there with cut bait or live minnows and catch some blues!!!
 

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Fished the MB pier king mack tourn 9/12-14 on second ave pier. Though no pier got a king, we had a great time catching flounder (largest was 5 lbs. 10 oz) and puppy drum up to 5 lbs. First time fishing the pier and can't say enough kind things about management and fisherpeople on pier. Catching and sharing bait is the norm.

I have fished almost all the piers from MB to OBX, and though most I can recommend, CHERRY GROVE is the only one I would NOT recommend to anyone. Management and locals are NOT friendly, courteous, or helpful people. This is one pierI would not have been upset if Isabelle had taken down.
 

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Mostly the management, they have driven off most of the good people who used to fish there with the prices, rules, and their own attitudes. There are still a few nice guys who kingfish, but most of the rest of the anglers are not very nice. There are a few who are, you just have to get lucky. Mush better to go somewhere else, if just because its cheaper
 

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I always loved how at 2nd Avenue, usually people were more than happy to share their bait with you and were pretty helpful and easy going. I just heard so much crap about Cherry Grove that I never had any desire to go there.
 

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I wouldn't have much idea about the 'attitude' of those involved at the Cherry Grove Pier. The times I have fished there I pretty much kept to myself. I can say I caught a lot of fish, but this was during spot runs and if you are land in the middle of one of those you will catch fish no matter what pier you are on. I haven't fished the MB piers, although they do sound very nice.
I must say, however, that wishing for a pier to get knocked down by a hurricane is a pretty idiotic thing to say no matter how much you hate the 'management'.
 

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Reading some of these reviews about Cherry Grove made me start wondering where the heck y'all have come up with these tales. I have been fishing Cherry Grove of ten years or more and my only complaint was with one of the security gaurds who was a total jerk, but that was three years ago. I can't vouch for the bottom fishers because I kingfish, and I realize that this gives me only a limited view of the people, but all the king fisherman I've met at Cherry Grove are in no way rude or mean. Yes the management is sour, but you only have to deal with them for as long as it takes to buy your pass and bait. If any of you have had a bad experience with a king fisherman (excluding the drunk who was kicked off the pier Oct. 18, if he posts here) please provide a name. Otherwise, exclude king fishermen from your degrading comments
 

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There are exceptions to every rule, I am sure there are anglers who fish cherry grove who are friendly and couteous, however, for reasons stated I have not been back to cherry grove. Since I am paying good money to fish, I personally expect to be treated in a courteous manner by the person taking my money.

Fishing should be fun and starting the day po'd is not my idea of fun.

PS: starting the day po'd good be the reason why a lot of the people I encountered had bad attitude, probably 50% me and 50% them for the same reason.
 

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I use to fish Cherry Grove quite frequently, but due to the management problems and the generaly rude people fishing i haven't returned in a while. The prices to fish the pier are crazy, you call the pier house to find out what's biting and they tell you lies just so you show up (called they said lots of fish were biting, talked to anglers after going out on the pier and they said not many fish have been caught the past few days). I will say this though, 90% of the king fisherman aren't rude and are usually willing to help out. However, there have been a few incidences ( one of which a guy hooked a fish and was working his way down the pier, I happened to be bottom fishing that side with two rods out, I attempted to get 'em in as fast as I could however as soon as he could see they weren't in the screaming fit started and he all but threw my rods in the water. That was the day I packed up my gear and haven't returned and don't plan to either.

Just my .02

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most of the king fishermen out there are ver nice, but one of them in particular, and i don't want to name names, tends to go a bit over board about hings like sharkbite mentioned.
 

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I think I know exactly who you are talking about sharkbite & bluerunner.

I knew one king fisherman who would walk down the pier cutting people's lines if they were not pulled in. Never got a chance to meet him, but I heard that he either died or moved away.

Wow, I never knew that CG bottom fishers were that bad. fishloser you make a good point about how the management is probably the reason that some have bad attitudes. Again, something I wouldn't know about since I get there at about 6:00 to set my anchor for kings and the only one who works that shift is Terry, a decent guy and a fellow king fisherman. He gets off at 7:00, the time most of the bottom fishers get there.

Yes the prices are outrageous. The owners claimed that the hike was to pay for reconstruction after Floyd, but it's past time for a drop. I read on another thread about Apache Pier, and I think I will try it my next trip.

Sorry if I sounded a bit egotistical in my first post. I just have never met a fisherman that was both rude and sober at the same time at CG. Guess I should stick to kingfishing
 

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Kingfisherman23:

since you are in the raleigh area, have you fished the piers around wilmington, topsail and OBX? The king/cobia/tarpon fishing is normally much better. I only fish the MB area during the fall tourn. I fish the others from april thru oct.
 

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Haven't fished an NC pier in years. My relatives have a friend who owns a beach house in NMB, one minute walk from CG, and in exchange for doing pre- and post-tourism season repairs they get to stay free. They invite us usually and the dates they are there usually are good times for kings.

Occasionally fish Cape Lookout on camping trips for a weekend and catch some reds, even one small shark.

Next year I'm thinking about taking a boat out there. Anyone know how the trolling is around Lookout, either kings or other big fish?
I'm talking within 3 miles or so of the cape.
 
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