Last Year's seminar was wonderful with Peter and Andy. It really takes time to learn to cast far. Learning something that really works; takes time. Neil's style of casting is different. Both styles cast a longggg way. I was frustrated last weekend, like I was last year; because when you learn something that is so different, you must re-learn; and that takes time. When my wife and I got home from the seminar on Sunday; Neil's STYLE started to sink in. I thought that my thinking had to be wrong, because I had just spent all weekend and I still did not understand. So I went to Wal-mart and bought some baseball's; rigged them and went to the field for 1 1/2 hrs. Long and straight. I sure did not have many of those over the weekend, while trying to learn Neil's style. Surprised was the word!! I decided that I might not have an opportunity like this again, to learn from an ACCOMPLISHED CASTER like Neil; so I called and re-signed up for this coming weekend. And I am really looking forward to re-trying Neil's PPT's that he brought along. Nice rods and an even nicer price. And the shipping is reasonable. I believe that the Sidewinder would fit nicely on my rod rack. That Copperhead would also be a very nice addition. Had a great time making some new friends, also. Larry.