[BasserJim]

I asked about conventional reel sizing for pier and inlet fishing, but now I think I've changed my mind. Thinking I may go spinning, as I planning on doing a bit of jigging with this rod, and I prefer the spinning reel for drop. Looking at a St Croix Trek series, they come MH, H, and XH and range from 10-40# line ratings and 1/2-3 oz ratings. For gulp tipped buck tails with a teaser, some light lure usage, and possibly some amount of bottom bouncing with a slip sinker and live bait, where would I want to be in that rating scale?

Also, 5000 or 6000 series reel? I feel like a 4 is way too small, but concerned that any bigger may be too heavy to use comfortably

 

[digiRAMbo]

FYI, "10-40# line ratings and 1/2-3 oz rating" is for XH Casting (and not spinning)

Not all "4" are the same size, so you may want to go check the reels out in person. Or if you are like me, you would look up the specs and look at the reel weight and line capacity to determine whether it's "too small" or not.

I would make a recommendation on spinning gear based on what I have used, but I'm more of a casting guy when it comes to using lures and you may change your mind again, so I'll pass, LOL. Just wanted to point out that St. Croix Legend Trek spinning doesn't have XH.

 

[BasserJim]

FYI, "10-40# line ratings and 1/2-3 oz rating" is for XH Casting (and not spinning)

Not all "4" are the same size, so you may want to go check the reels out in person. Or if you are like me, you would look up the specs and look at the reel weight and line capacity to determine whether it's "too small" or not.

I would make a recommendation on spinning gear based on what I have used, but I'm more of a casting guy when it comes to using lures and you may change your mind again, so I'll pass, LOL. Just wanted to point out that St. Croix Legend Trek spinning doesn't have XH.

Digirambo, the MH is 10-20 lb, 1/2-1.25 oz, H is 15-30 lb and 3/4 to 2, and XH is 17-40 with a 1-3 oz lure rating. The rod will be custom built on one of these blanks, so the casting/spinning doesn't matter.

I would definitely love to find a tackle shop close to the Delaware beaches that has a large variety of Shimano SW spinning reels in stock.

 

[digiRAMbo]

Digirambo, the MH is 10-20 lb, 1/2-1.25 oz, H is 15-30 lb and 3/4 to 2, and XH is 17-40 with a 1-3 oz lure rating. The rod will be custom built on one of these blanks, so the casting/spinning doesn't matter.

I would definitely love to find a tackle shop close to the Delaware beaches that has a large variety of Shimano SW spinning reels in stock.

Wow even better with the custom built rod! I thought you were looking for a stock rod.

This is probably a class or two below what you are shopping for, but I have a Shimano Stradic ST4000XGFK. I've caught blues, stripers, and hooked onto a couple of big rays. Reel is still smooth like butter. I guess you are in the market for a reel that's class or two above this reel though... Maybe a Stella?

 

[IPNURWATER]

Some of the 5k-6k share the same body just different spools.If you do your homework you can use ove reel with diff spools.


So what fish are you targeting with this setup and from where are you fishing it ? Boat or pier? .I can tell you one thing .any jigging set up gets abused compare to the rest of my gear.

 

[BasserJim]

Wow even better with the custom built rod! I thought you were looking for a stock rod.

This is probably a class or two below what you are shopping for, but I have a Shimano Stradic ST4000XGFK. I've caught blues, stripers, and hooked onto a couple of big rays. Reel is still smooth like butter. I guess you are in the market for a reel that's class or two above this reel though... Maybe a Stella?

I'd love to add another Stella to my collection. I have a 2500 and a 3000 that I use for freshwater. Also thinking about a Twinpower. It's just hard for me to justify the Stella on something that won't see a ton of use. If I lived in the area and used it regularly, there would be no question.

Some of the 5k-6k share the same body just different spools.If you do your homework you can use ove reel with diff spools.


So what fish are you targeting with this setup and from where are you fishing it ? Boat or pier? .I can tell you one thing .any jigging set up gets abused compare to the rest of my gear.

Primarily looking for flounder. Mostly pier/from shore in IRI, maybe surf(does anyone catch flounder in the surf in Delaware?) and we do go out on a charge boat every once in a while.

 

[kurazy kracka]

IMO go to a shop like Tackle Direct in NJ and handle all the rods. I'm not too crazy about St Croix rods, all of them are a bit too fast for my liking.

 

[digiRAMbo]

I'd love to add another Stella to my collection. I have a 2500 and a 3000 that I use for freshwater. Also thinking about a Twinpower. It's just hard for me to justify the Stella on something that won't see a ton of use. If I lived in the area and used it regularly, there would be no question.

It seems to me that you own a lot of tackle and that you are definitely more knowledgeable about this topic than I am. I hope I didn't insult you by making some weak suggestions, lol. I thought you were a newbie (like I am) and was making suggestions based on what I have used so far. I think you should be the one giving pointers!

 

[BasserJim]

It seems to me that you own a lot of tackle and that you are definitely more knowledgeable about this topic than I am. I hope I didn't insult you by making some weak suggestions, lol. I thought you were a newbie (like I am) and was making suggestions based on what I have used so far. I think you should be the one giving pointers!

I'm extremely knowledgeable about freshwater tackle, I'm fairly new to the saltwater game. Especially at my own tackle and not something a charter mate hands me.

 

[RocknReds]

I'm extremely knowledgeable about freshwater tackle, I'm fairly new to the saltwater game. Especially at my own tackle and not something a charter mate hands me.

Call Tommy - he has the knowledge and the best equipment

 

[IPNURWATER]

I'd love to add another Stella to my collection. I have a 2500 and a 3000 that I use for freshwater. Also thinking about a Twinpower. It's just hard for me to justify the Stella on something that won't see a ton of use. If I lived in the area and used it regularly, there would be no question.



Primarily looking for flounder. Mostly pier/from shore in IRI, maybe surf(does anyone catch flounder in the surf in Delaware?) and we do go out on a charge boat every once in a while.

If your targeting flounder that rating setup your going for is way over kill . From What you already want it's more of a cobia setup. Correct me if im wrong but isn't that series st croix around $500 for the rod only. A little much for a puny flounder.


Your 2500-3000 you already have would be perfect for flounder targeting. I use a 2k for flounder on land and boatin inshore with a trout rod...

If you want a heavy duty class rod but very forgiving and sensitive for jigging look at the shimano trevalas Rods . I have 6 of them.

All my rods are st croix , or shimano tc4 teremars or tc4 trevalas..all have lifetime Warr

 

[BasserJim]

If your targeting flounder that rating setup your going for is way over kill . From What you already want it's more of a cobia setup. Correct me if im wrong but isn't that series st croix around $500 for the rod only. A little much for a puny flounder.


Your 2500-3000 you already have would be perfect for flounder targeting. I use a 2k for flounder on land and boatin inshore with a trout rod...

If you want a heavy duty class rod but very forgiving and sensitive for jigging look at the shimano trevalas Rods . I have 6 of them.

All my rods are st croix , or shimano tc4 teremars or tc4 trevalas..all have lifetime Warr

Those rods built are around $500. I'll have $250 ish in parts to build it.....I don't like to swap reels between rods, I normally build (have built) to match a reel.

When it comes to fishing tackle, "money is no object". I like high end equipment, and don't really care what it costs to get it. Could cheaper stuff do the same thing? Absolutely. I don't care.... I like my custom Croix rods and high end reels.....

Here's my dilemma though.... I really like saltwater fishing, but I don't do it nearly enough to justify spending money on a whole bunch of different kinds of equipment...... So what I am looking for, is a rod that's going to be light and sensitive enough for jigging flounder, but can also hold up to throwing some lures in the surf and catching rocks and blues, or out trolling for small blues and bonita. I want something that's going to be a good multi purpose rod.

 

[kurazy kracka]

Those rods built are around $500. I'll have $250 ish in parts to build it.....I don't like to swap reels between rods, I normally build (have built) to match a reel.

When it comes to fishing tackle, "money is no object". I like high end equipment, and don't really care what it costs to get it. Could cheaper stuff do the same thing? Absolutely. I don't care.... I like my custom Croix rods and high end reels.....

Here's my dilemma though.... I really like saltwater fishing, but I don't do it nearly enough to justify spending money on a whole bunch of different kinds of equipment...... So what I am looking for, is a rod that's going to be light and sensitive enough for jigging flounder, but can also hold up to throwing some lures in the surf and catching rocks and blues, or out trolling for small blues and bonita. I want something that's going to be a good multi purpose rod.

I don't think you will find a rod that will meet all of those requirements and be a jack of all trades. You will need to have 1 rod that could be a bit over rated for flatties to cover the surf fishing side of it.

 

[IPNURWATER]

I wound suggest meduim rating for flounder targeting with a 3k or less reel. The biggest flounder you will every see and release might get around 26-28 inches. Which is huge for flounder most will be in the 16-22 range.

 

[BasserJim]

I don't think you will find a rod that will meet all of those requirements and be a jack of all trades. You will need to have 1 rod that could be a bit over rated for flatties to cover the surf fishing side of it.

I do already have a 12 foot surf rod for poppers and chunking cut bait, etc. maybe I need to just concentrate on founder on this one. Do we think I'd be further off with the 1/2 to 1.25 oz? Or the 3/4 to 2? Or am I still heavy? My flounder targeting experience is limited to charter fishing where I've been handed a huge heavy boat rod for bottom bouncing

 

[Solesolace]

I love my 7ft med/heavy Ugly Stik GX2. If I'm fishing a pier, I toss my Battle 2 5000 on it with the 15lb mono and/or 30lb braid. If I'm going to be walking a beach locally (probably similar to fishing flats), I toss on a Fierce 2000 with 15lb braid. Is it the lightest rod on the market? Definitely not, but it's pretty damn sensitive (I've used it for wacky rigs and drop shotting for largemouth and I can feel bluegill pecking at the senkos.) and it's got enough backbone to horse in a larger fish, if I manage to hook up with one...or so I think. Biggest fish I've caught with it was a 26" carp. Not sure what the weight was, but the rod had no issues at all.

I actually ran across an interesting article when I first got back into fishing about the 'best' all around set up for someone that wants to fish lots of different things, but not spend their life savings on tons of different types of gear. Even if you don't take the guy's advice, it's worth a read. I've posted the link below. It's what led me to purchase the rods/reels that I currently have and I've found them to be very, very versatile. I bounce back and forth between freshwater and saltwater fishing.

http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-rod-reel-for-most-fishers/

 

[kurazy kracka]

I do already have a 12 foot surf rod for poppers and chunking cut bait, etc. maybe I need to just concentrate on founder on this one. Do we think I'd be further off with the 1/2 to 1.25 oz? Or the 3/4 to 2? Or am I still heavy? My flounder targeting experience is limited to charter fishing where I've been handed a huge heavy boat rod for bottom bouncing

of those 2 options I would go with the slightly heavier one, that will let you toss around some small tins and bucktails without worry too. For flatties the lightest you will be fishing I'd say is a 3/8-1/2oz jig/bucktail plus the weight of what ever softbait is on there and then depending if/what kind of teaser you fish.
I use an 8' 5/8-3oz rod for my flattie jigging and it doubles as throwing light tins and plastic lures.
http://www.tackledirect.com/rh-custom-rods-cts-bs702-7ft-inshore-spinning-rod.html
another rod to consider...you can also order blanks and build it yourself. (not from TD)

 

[andypat]

7' Med. or ML redbone for beach flounder is what I use. Also for all the other fish along the beach. From all the Info. you got, sounds like they all work. LOL!