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I love this country. I think the way to MAGA is not to vilify certain groups, but to seek a purer democracy:

Outlaw gerrymandering--independent third parties draw voting district lines.
Democratize campaign finance--limit donations to $50 per candidate per election, made by registered voters only. No corporate donations, PACs, or privately funded campaigns.
Retire the electoral college--it approximates the popular vote too coarsely.

The rest will take care of itself.
 

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I love this country. I think the way to MAGA is not to vilify certain groups, but to seek a purer democracy:

Outlaw gerrymandering--independent third parties draw voting district lines.
Democratize campaign finance--limit donations to $50 per candidate per election, made by registered voters only. No corporate donations, PACs, or privately funded campaigns.
Retire the electoral college--it approximates the popular vote too coarsely.

The rest will take care of itself.
the country has never been a pure democracy. It's a democratic representative republic. If it was a true democracy without an electoral college New York and California would be the only 2 states needed to elect a president, the population is so dense in each. Without the electoral college the rest of the country wouldn't have a voice. True democracy's tend to have fairly short lifespans.

Side note. If you limit campaign donations but so much all you would get are billionaires as president. They would be able to pretty much buy their way to the white house. How many million do think Bloomberg can spend before he's eating pbj's and top romin to keep the Bentley from being repo.
 

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An antiquated Electoral College voted him in. This guy is a disaster, a corrupt disaster, for some reason folks kowtow to his threats. He is an embarrassment to American Principals. He embodies all the qualities that are the worst of mankind's faults.

What I learned in this life is that people who talk tough are weak. The truly courageous and strong do not have to talk, they just are.
LOL! Uncle Joe thinks he is a tough guy. He said he would like to take Trump behind the barn. LMAO!
 

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An antiquated Electoral College voted him in. This guy is a disaster, a corrupt disaster, for some reason folks kowtow to his threats. He is an embarrassment to American Principals. He embodies all the qualities that are the worst of mankind's faults.

What I learned in this life is that people who talk tough are weak. The truly courageous and strong do not have to talk, they just are.
LOL! Uncle Joe thinks he is a tough guy. He said he would like to take Trump behind the barn. LMAO!
in support of the "me too" movement uncle joe said "we have to keep punching at domestic violence". I don't think Joe knows exactly where he is a times, he's lost mentally. The babbling rants he goes on, wants to punch everyone, the personal attacks on people that question him when he feels cornered. Then there's the deal with him kissing women when he greets them.. He's on tape bragging about using a billion taxpayer dollars a leverage to get a Ukrainian investor fired, who coincidentally was looking into the company his son worked for. I bet his campaign manager has night terrors of having to cover his mess. People think trump is an embarrassment and other world leaders laugh at him... what if joe got to be president... holy $#!÷. Obama won't endorse him and he was his friggin VP. Bernie is a communist and Warren isn't far behind. Bloomberg is spending a fortune on ads with no plans other than to just beat trump. Bernie will probably win the primary if the Democrats don't rig it again to keep him from winning. I dont think the Democrats have a chance.
 

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Uhm, frumpf is married to a communist, and brought her commy parents over here on some special privilege clause because their daughter is married to him.
Frumpf is far from being presidential material and sadly the alternatives seem questionable. For some time now, we’ve had to vote for the lesser of two evils. That’s becoming even more frightening.
What a bunch of crap for his recent campaign BS that “the best is yet to come”. Really?
Back to our regularly scheduled programming please.
 

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Uhm, frumpf is married to a communist, and brought her commy parents over here on some special privilege clause because their daughter is married to him.
Frumpf is far from being presidential material and sadly the alternatives seem questionable. For some time now, we’ve had to vote for the lesser of two evils. That’s becoming even more frightening.
What a bunch of crap for his recent campaign BS that “the best is yet to come”. Really?
Back to our regularly scheduled programming please.
strong arguments. Because someone was born in the former USSR that automatically makes them a communist.
 

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> makes a post to clearly incite political disagreements
> tells everyone he's going fishing to dismiss them when it happens
Big boomer energy

Also, why is everyone obsessed with Joe? It's been clear from the start that he isn't a viable candidate, and no amount of coverage from the big networks is going to save him. Same with Hillary. She isn't relevant anymore. The Right should stop bringing her up.

To give Trump credit, I appreciate his attempts at fixing trade deals. That's about all I appreciate from his time in office, but at least he's up front with his war mongering and blatant support of the wealthy with his tax reform rather than the secretive "oops, we blew up some children again" that we got from the Obama administration. I'm always surprised when I see strong support for the man from the Outdoors community given his administration's war on environmental regulations. Of particular note to us Maryland folk is a continued effort on the administation's part to cut funding for the Chesapeake Bay Program by up to 90%. His EPA is refusing to enforce the agreement on PA, which will allow them to continue dumping pollutants into the Susquehanna. Hopefully people here can at least agree that's bad.

I'll register Democrat to vote for Bernie in the primaries. "Democratic Socialism" is certainly different from "Communism" given that Capitalism is still the driving force of the country rather than what China has going. At least he's honest and consistent. A much better option than Warren, a war mongering charlatan, an angry and mentally fleeting Biden, or a hardly-qualified Yang. If another candidate is going to be put up against Trump I'd like it to be a good one, even if I don't support his policies.

Come general election I'll be writing in the truly most viable candidate: Vermin Supreme. I mean, look at the size of his hat! Can't argue with that.

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a DeEp stAtE fEdeRaL cOntRaCtOR
 

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strong arguments. Because someone was born in the former USSR that automatically makes them a communist.
No different than the multitude of accusations and put-downs from the mightiest of twitter users. But I guess that third grade sandlot ignorant trash mouthing from a president is what elevates him to such a highly admired person who can do no wrong in the eyes of those who side with him.
Melania’s father was a member of the League of Communists of Slovenia, a branch of the League of Communists of Yugoslavia.
Can you say “once a xxxxx always a xxxxx”? Or, “chip off the old shoulder”. Damn well more of a commy than those you’ve cited here.
Certain you’ll have a comeback for the facts, I’m done here. Let it go.
Andy, sorry for belaboring an issue on a thread you so graciously shared. You’re right, maybe we should go fishing. Just yesterday I was telling the wife how we should go plant our feet in the sand somewhere. She was quick to respond in kind.
 

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I tried to post a USAF picture for you but it don't show up. Don't matter. I'm done with this SHIT. Now delete me for saying SHIT. See Ya!
 

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LOL! Uncle Joe thinks he is a tough guy. He said he would like to take Trump behind the barn. LMAO!
I did not say a word about Biden who is too old to be President.

What I meant is in reference to ****ing Punks who talk tough and let others Die for their BS ****ing Lies as an Imposter Reality Show President
 

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You can hate the personality all you want but it's hard to deny all of the good things that have happened to our country since Trump has been in office (whether you're smart/honest enough give him credit) despite the non-stop BS resistance from the Democratic party since the day he was sworn into office.

If I remember Trump let the leaders of the Armed Forces deal with the red line in Syria which was placed at the southern border of Turkey and is/was where ISIS got chased to before it disappeared. He also is trying to get us out of the Persian/Arab war that's centuries old in that part of the world and when he tries it only gets the negative response of "leaving our allies behind" instead of being glad that they are now taking care of themselves.

Everyone complains about how Trump acts but fails to realize/admit that he's not a smooth mouthed politician that sells himself during election years with promises/lies about what they're going to do for you after being elected only to fall back in line with their own party's wishes to promote their next re-election. That's one of the best things about Trump is he's the most independent candidate that ever has been President and took office owing no one.

The most important question is, if not him, who ?

So rag on him all you want because looking at his past performance it really doesn't slow him down ...

My $ 0.02, Jay B
 

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You can hate the personality all you want but it's hard to deny all of the good things that have happened to our country since Trump has been in office (whether you're smart/honest enough give him credit) despite the non-stop BS resistance from the Democratic party since the day he was sworn into office.

If I remember Trump let the leaders of the Armed Forces deal with the red line in Syria which was placed at the southern border of Turkey and is/was where ISIS got chased to before it disappeared. He also is trying to get us out of the Persian/Arab war that's centuries old in that part of the world and when he tries it only gets the negative response of "leaving our allies behind" instead of being glad that they are now taking care of themselves.

Everyone complains about how Trump acts but fails to realize/admit that he's not a smooth mouthed politician that sells himself during election years with promises/lies about what they're going to do for you after being elected only to fall back in line with their own party's wishes to promote their next re-election. That's one of the best things about Trump is he's the most independent candidate that ever has been President and took office owing no one.

The most important question is, if not him, who ?

So rag on him all you want because looking at his past performance it really doesn't slow him down ...

My $ 0.02, Jay B
**** Him

Someone else who is not a criminal, rude, vindictive self centered and a punk and is intelligent.

He sold the Syrian Kurds out to protect his royalties from two Trump Towers in Ankara. If you follow the money or the Russians that is where you will find this idiot. 3/4 of his Twitter followers are telling him to **** off every time he tells another lie. The Kurds are getting slaughtered by the Syrian Government and the Russians and the Turkish Militia's what the **** do you come off with some dumb **** theory that they are now standing on their own? They are lying in their graves.

There is a misconception that Trump can take credit for everything that happens in the US. The dumb **** does not even get his ****ing orange makeup right before he comes out to tell a lie with every other sentence. His Staff spends most of the day cleaning up whatever Shit Storm he created the day before. The Generals could not believe how stupid Trump was when they tried unsuccessfully to inform him of US policy abroad.

Melania is one Hot Commie, she lives supposedly here in Potomac with her Parents and Son who attends school here in Potomac, seen the Secret Service's Two Black Suburbans that drive her around few months back, they were in front of me and one went through a yellow light and the other hit his blue flashers and yelper to go thru the intersection on the Red light so as not to be separated from the lead vehicle.

We will have a Billionaire from NY as the next President, but this one will actually have created the wealth, rather than recieved it via a tax dodge.

I have been acused of many things but being stupid was not one of them, and if you want to impune my honesty go **** yourself, In the Spring I likely will be at the Point and I am not hard to find.
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Only thing worse than an a**hole is a threatening, belligerent and hateful a**hole who believes he can do anything he wants to do under the guise of being president. A president needs to be held to a higher standard than that. Shame that standard can’t be legislated, though in a public arena one can be fired for just that. Fact checking shows much of what he says is inaccurate, and much of what he claims as his accomplishments amounts to nothing more than riding the coattails of a previous administration. He doesn’t have the acorns to admit that, or be thankful for the opportunity. Don’t believe me? It’s all out there. Too bad Trump followers can only ignore it. I just shake my head at the pied piper’s following.
I thought I was done here. Maybe it’s time for the mods to move this to the Forum.
Melania? In a televised interview, Trump said, “if you want to be happy, marry a pretty girl and bang the hell out of her”. Wonder what she has to say about that.
 
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