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Wanna get out Friday since I dont have class till 2:30, and its been a few weeks. I can never find anything for up here around Tallahassee, and I usually just go to Mashes Sands, did pretty decent last time, it'd be nice to know what I can expect though.....

Come on Koz, hook me up!
 

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Will this help you out Joeseminole18

By Capt. Jody Campbell

Posted 10.29.03

What can I say. Fishing is still good or should we say excellent. We had a little front blow through which made fishing tough and miserable on Tuesday but by weekend it should be real nice. The water temperature has risen a little over the past week and I don't believe there are many fish up in the creeks yet. I spent quite a bit of time in one of my favorite places but they just didn't seem to be there.

Trout fishing and red fishing is good from the Econfina to St. George Island. It really doesn't matter what you fish with but they sure do like those big live shrimp that the bait store's are getting. Grubs free lined or under a Cajun Thunder are working, sinking MirrOlures, top water baits, live minnows and jerk baits are all working. You just have to go to catch them. There are still plenty of Spanish around, pompano, some big blue fish and plenty of cobia. If you don't have a boat, there are quite a few places that you can wade right now and catch fish.

The jetties at St. Marks, Wakulla Beach oyster bars(They don't serve beer) , Bald Point near Alligator Point, and off hwy 98 in Alligator Bay.(Go past the dirt landing on 98 and just look for the places people have pulled off the road. Good fishing with gold spoons and live pinfish. A channel runs about 150 feet offshore).

St. Joe Bay is on fire right now. The best way to catch fish over there is catch you some live pilchards, anchor your boat in shallow water near sand, and wade and sight fish. You need a calm and sunny day to see the fish. Grouper fishing continues to get better and better. The fish are moving into the shallower water and a friend of mind got his limit quick trolling in 40 feet of water off buoy 24. Live pinfish on the bottom is good and they'll hit any dead bait.

There are still amberjack around, quite a few kings and some bit cobia. Don't be surprised to catch a few big redfish out there either. Just make sure when you release them that they have been revived. Don't just bring them in, pull out the hook and throw them back. They fight so hard that when they come to the boat they are exhausted.

Good luck and good fishing. Hope to see you on the water.
Capt. Jody Campbell

Give me some names of some areas that you like to fish and I will hook you up a little better .

http://www.jerrysbait.com/fishingreport.htm#St. Marks Lighthouse

Not alot of info at my finger tips just as you are finding out as well. :(
 

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Koz, Thanks, I knew I could count on you for something. I've only fished St. George Island once, everything else has been Mashes Sands. Its a lot closer than SGI, thats roughly 2 1/2 hours, a bit of a haul when I can get to Mashes Sands in 40mins or so. I dont know of anywhere else to fish around here, I'm sure there's plenty of spots around the Lower Ochlockonee River but I've never driven around and tried to find anything. I know there's Bald/Alligator Point and Wakulla, but never given those a try.

What happened to that other guy from Tallahassee? I cant remember his username for the life of me, but he hooked me up with directions and stuff for Mashes Sands, I haven't seen him on here for months.

Also, last time I was at Mashes Sands I was getting what seemed like a lot of small pilchards with my cast net, which was a surprise because normally it seems like all I get are either really large glass minnows, which I doubt, or what seem like really small (finger) mullet. Can you hook me up with a picture of a pilchard, just so I can make sure?

Final question here....I only got 2 hits with the pilchard? off the pier the other week. Caught a redfish with one, had a great slam on my other pole but *others* werent paying attention and missed it. Also pulled up a half eaten one too, so I dont know what to expect from that. I've caught trout there before, and I always see the occasional fish swarm into the shallows there and ambush the smaller baitfish, but can never figure out what they are. So, is there any specifc reason why I've only caught 1 fish using the pilchards/finger mullet for bait? I always thought that a big trout would suck down a pilchard, same with a red, or even a flounder? Is there a better way of rigging up a pilchard other than thru the lips or the back and sitting it on the bottom?

Thanks!
 

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Take a Live Bait Lesson.
http://www.jerrylabella.com/live_bait_lessons.htm
http://www.dto.com/swfishing/article.jsp?articleid=353

Bait fish ID
http://www.floridasaltwater.com/baitfish/index.htm

http://www.shrimpin.com/bait_fish_identification.htm

Scientific and other names
Pilchard (Sardinops sagax) are also commonly named blue pilchard, sardine, bluebait or mulies when used as bait.

PILCHARDS These are mature sardines and can grow up to 24 cm (10 in).
SARDINES are small fish of the pilchard family.

What are you catching here for bait? Im not sure myself now .

Pilchards: Locally, I know of 2 kinds of pilchards, one being the better of the two, the razor belly pilchard and the other being the sandy key. The razor belly is a very hearty bait, but their longevity in the well can be compared to any other bait and can be held in great numbers. Sandy’s on the other hand loose their scales easily and the life span in the well is poor. However, both types often school together. They are awesome baits! I don’t think there is a predator in the sea that won’t eat a pilchard. Pilchards usually travel in huge numbers, and can be found anywhere from the backcountry to offshore up to 200 feet of water. Birds are more often than not a dead-giveaway as to the location of these most sought-after baits. If they’re in shallow water, you must keep an eye on the movement of the school as they will move onto a grass bed and will be hard to see. But if you see one, there will be more. If you are in deep enough water to use your fishfinder, they will usually show up very well. They will readily respond to sand chumming and once the school is within range you can get a cast net on them. You may also use small gold hooks or a sabiki rig. At night they will come right to your lights and your can chum and catch them as mentioned above.

Spanish Sardine


scale sardine


Pictures of Some Florida Fish and Invertebrates
http://marinefisheries.org/photo.htm
 

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Ok, well I'd definitely say now it was a scaled sardine, yet its not really a black back, more of a greenish tinted one, thats it though.

I just dont understand why I haven't gotten a trout to slam it yet, doesn't make any sense to me. I've fished them on the bottom, free-lined, bobber, you name it i've done it. Redfish and stingrays have been my only catch though. We'll see what happens Friday.

Come up with any other places around here for me?

Thanks again Koz.
 

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I dont understand why your not getting the fish to take your bait .
But there are days when I and alot of other anglers do everything by the book and its just not our day . Try try again is all we can do .
Still looking for some other spots for ya.
Hopfully someone in that area will see this and jump on in .

Good Luck this Friday


Fishing Psychology 101
by Marc Malkin

You have equipped yourself with all the right gear, the hottest lures and you’re right on the spot. There’s just one problem – you’re not catching any fish. The problem may not be attributable to any physical variables – it may be psychological.

According to Simi Valley, California-based psychiatrist, Dr. Allan Abrams, a person’s mindset can dramatically affect overall performance and success when it comes to any activity or sport – fishing included. Abrams, who has treated many athletes over the years, says that your confidence level, how you handle your emotions and your state of awareness can definitely impact how well you do out on the water. So, if you seem to be doing all the right things but your fish hold is typically empty, maybe you need to lie down on the couch (or the deck) and look inside your head for some answers. Be sure to consider the following psychological factors:

Confidence

There’s no doubt about it, fishing with confidence is extremely important when it comes to angling success. If you truly believe in the effectiveness of your rod and reel, your lure, the technique you are using and the area you’re fishing, chances are you’ll hook up more often. Anglers that fish tentatively or with little faith in what they are doing are destined to have tough, unproductive outings. The reason for this may not be so mysterious. If an angler begins to doubt his or her own ability, stress, negativity and frustration are likely to ensue. This kind of self doubt typically has a kind of “self-fulfilling prophecy” effect -- if you don’t believe in your ability to catch fish, you probably won’t catch much.

Patience

Most anglers tend to lose patience with a lure, technique or spot if positive results aren’t experienced within a short period of time. Of course, there comes a time when it is wise to switch to a different bait, method or location, but don’t rush the process. Remember, patience and persistence are important virtues for the angler. Just because a spot doesn’t produce instantly, doesn’t mean that the area isn’t holding fish. If things look and feel right, give a spot ample time to produce and try a variety of baits and techniques. Then again, don’t beat a dead horse. If there’s no action after a reasonable amount of time and effort, try someplace else.

Anger

Don’t lose your cool out there – even if the fish aren’t cooperating, the conditions are lousy and the guy next to you is a complete jerk. A flaring temper can affect the way you fish, your productivity and the level of enjoyment for yourself and everyone onboard. Even though you may take your fishing seriously, remember to have fun and keep the atmosphere light. After all, that’s what fishing is all about. If you’re not catching as many fish as others on the boat, or you lose a big fish, don’t blow your top – it’s all part of the game. Whatever happens out there, be a good sport and don’t let yourself get “psyched out.” Maintain control and don’t let your emotions get the best of you.

Awareness

Focusing on the task at hand can mean the difference between catching and not catching fish. If you are easily distracted, chances are you’ll miss those subtle hits or pick ups. It’s also important keep track of your immediate environment to detect changes in conditions, fish movements, etc. Watch for feeding birds, baitfish activity or “boiling” gamefish. Also keep a sharp eye out for current breaks, floating kelp or seaweed and other likely fish “magnets.” Always stay alert and be ready to act appropriately and quickly according to the situation.

Unconscious Behavior

Analyze your moves, step by step, to see if you have unconsciously adopted any bad angling habits. Without realizing it, you may be doing something that’s negatively affecting your performance. There could be a something wrong with the way you are holding the rod, setting the hook or fighting a fish. Maybe you’re easing up on a fish when you should be applying more pressure, or visa versa. You may even want to have someone video tape you in action, so you can take an objective look at your “fishing form.” It may be time for a little angling behavior modification.

It makes sense GET PUMPED
 

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Maybe I'll give these Wakulla Jetties a try or something. Mashes Sands is nice and all, usually no people on Thursday....it just seems to be pretty limited as to what I can catch. Got a nice new reel off ebay, seems like some chinese thing or something, I wanna give it a shot, see how it works. $22, bait clicker, nice gold finish, seems to be nice.....I guess we'll find out Friday. I'll look around for directions and such, thanks again!
 

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Hey- It's me (former fellow Tallahassee poster bigshark88)
Had computer problems, couldn't get it all solved, didn't get a response to a request for help from administration so I am back under a new name

Joe- I have written you back so check in and then we can talk

Everyone else- I will post a "back from the dead" thread and get some fish porn on there for all to see
 
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