Hey Castaway, I am learning to cast further, also. I drove to D.C. several times last summer and practiced with several of the guys. Then I attended the casting seminar in D.C., both days. The second day, the seminar clicked for me and I had a best of around 540'. Then went to Crisfield, Md., for the tournament. I had a great time. My first 4 throws were all out-of-bounds. All to the left. My last throw was around 465'. Before the seminar I could only throw 1 football field. I use a breakaway 2/1 heavy and a Penn 525mag w/extra magnets from Tres @ H.O. See ya, pelican man. P.S. I am not Amish.