To make a long story short, my wifes cousin works for an importer and she has access to buy some items at cost. We were talking over the holiday weekend and she's senting me two 11' or 12' Tica or Tsunami rods. If anyone is interested in one or both of them let me know. I am not really looking for another rod right now, but I wasn't going to pass on a great offer. Last year she got my father in law a pse crossbow for less than half of what a local shop was going to charge him. When I find out the models I will let you know. I should know by thursday when she email me about it.