Question: 2015 F150 burried twice FAST...
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 47

Thread: 2015 F150 burried twice FAST...

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Queen City, NC
    Posts
    1,371

    2015 F150 burried twice FAST...

    I purchased a 2015 F150 last year. (please no "because Ford suck" "should have purchased a _____." keep on subject). I am not happy with the truck but I have to keep it for a while.

    I have had it out to the OBX twice and both times buried to the frame FAST!!! as in seconds. For example I started to slow down then next thing I know I am high-sided on the frame. This has NEVER happened to me when I was driving my Tunrda in 5 years driving on the softest of sand.

    Now some issues I have that cannot be changed: I have 20" rims (ordered 18", long story) on standard Ford AT tires (275/55R20). I am looking to a leveling kit for wider and taller tires.

    I am wondering if this is a Ford 4WD issue or if it is a chitty tire issue or a 20" rim issue. I cannot find much on it on the WWW
    on my Tundra I was running 275/70R18

  2. Remove Advertisements
    PierAndSurf.com
    Advertisements
     

  3. #2
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Jersey
    Posts
    2,179
    Air down more and lengthen the tire track, the principal is like a snowshoe more surface area to the tire makes it float better on top of the sand.

    No links (Opening for Dave....) , I did drive Ford's for twenty years on the OBX beach.

    Never Drove or even rode in a Toyota, heard they sucked

  4. #3
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    NC 252
    Posts
    1,723
    I have an f250 crew cab.its a 7000 lb truck. LT 265-70-17s Althogh I run 70 psi on the highway.. I air down to 20 .. Have no NO problem..even in soft sand
    STAY IN THE RUTS especially if you aren't familiar with beach driving, and the uncertianty of your truck. A 150 is much lighter than the 250.. I'm not a big fan of 20 inch rims though .. The height of your tire might make up for the difference..I believe the 275 is about an inch taller.. ... I believe it is more of a tire and rim selection in your case .. There is a reason I like a tall sidewall on my tires..

    I do the exact same ( air down to 18-20) on my TOYOTA 4runmer which I rarely drive on the beach..I probably won't see Garbo when I go to Carrova anyway..

    Besides Garbo, Dave bought this Xterra he was goin to "TRICK OUT" I'm sure he'd give you a ride in his Nissan, Since you think Yotas Suck..
    Last edited by DaBig2na; 09-13-2016 at 09:28 PM.

  5. Remove Advertisements
    PierAndSurf.com
    Advertisements
     

  6. #4
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Cumberland Maryland
    Posts
    5,194
    I have a FX150 and only got stuck once in a super bad spot, stopped as soon as it stopped and aired on down to 15 and it climbed right out, the tires play such huge part, how many plys to how tall they are (low profile sucks), more plys the stiffer and worse they will be on the beach, I usually air the back tires down a couple more pounds than the front since the front end has all the extra weight of motor and tranny

  7. #5
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Cumberland Maryland
    Posts
    5,194
    I have a FX150 and only got stuck once in a super bad spot, stopped as soon as it stopped and aired on down to 15 and it climbed right out, the tires play such huge part, how many plys to how tall they are (low profile sucks), more plys the stiffer and worse they will be on the beach, I usually air the back tires down a couple more pounds than the front since the front end has all the extra weight of motor and tranny, tall side wall tires have more flex and do better on the beach, you didn't have it in L4 did you ?

  8. #6
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    NC
    Posts
    18
    Spydermn,
    I would say that your problem is not with your truck or with the type of tire that your have, but with those 20" wheels. You didn't mention if you aired down any...that may have helped some. However, with anything less than a 35" tire on a 20" wheel, some people may be hesitant of airing down much, for fear of popping a bead or for the simple fact that you don't get much benefit because there is not enough sidewall to balloon out much. I recently ran into the same situation when I traded in my Silverado on 315s (roughly 35") for a Ram 1500 with 20" wheels and 275/60r20 tires. My solution.....buy an extra set of 17" wheels and tires(285/70r17). This may sound expensive, but think about it this way....you can use the 20" wheels/tires for normal everyday driving and then swap them out for the 17" wheels/tires when heading to the beach. This way, you save some miles on both sets, and shouldn't need another set of tires for quite a while. Or...you may find that you like the 17s so much that you decide to sell the 20s to recoup some of your cost. You can get a pretty good deal on 17" or 18" tire/wheel combos on websites like DiscountTiresDirect(~around $1100 for a cheaper combo, which is less than you would pay for most sets of 20" at tires). Going to a smaller 17 or 18" wheel, you wouldn't need a tire any taller or wider than what you are running now (maybe a 275/65r17), therefore eliminating the need for a lift. However, before doing any of this, do research to find out what the smallest wheel your brake rotors will allow; this will determine whether you could use 17s or have to move up to 18s. Hope this helps

    PS: sorry for such a long post

  9. #7
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Virginia
    Posts
    41
    I agree that it probably has more to do with the wheels/tires than the truck. I own a 2013 F150 (with 18" rims) and it performs flawlessly on the OBX sand...have never came close to getting stuck in the 3 years I've owned it.

  10. #8
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    NC Mountains
    Posts
    628
    Have to agree. Wheels and tires would be my guess. I drive a Chevrolet but have friends with Fords and they do fine. So did you air down any?? I've only gotten stuck once and I hadn't aired down and burried it to the frame. Yep; was happy to be pulled out by a Ford. Been years ago but never made that mistake again.

  11. #9
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Stuck At Work
    Posts
    5,350
    My bet would be the rim/tire package also. I know some of the big wheel tires are very hard and even airing down won't do it.

  12. #10
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Queen City, NC
    Posts
    1,371
    Sorry to all I failed to mention that I was air'd down to 18 psi prior to getting stuck dropped to 12 trying to get out. I hate the 20's. In my tundra there were a couple times I was to tired on a suicide run from Charlotte and forgot to air down and had no issues. I think the issue is with the rims. I hate most aftermarket rims but factory are ridiculous in $$$

  13. #11
    Join Date
    Jul 2001
    Location
    Richmond, VA
    Posts
    101
    Check Craigslist for a set of wheels/tires........a lot of you guys seem to be trading UP for bigger rims/tires and you'll be able to snatch up a good deal for your fishing set of rims/tires.

  14. #12
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Cumberland Maryland
    Posts
    5,194
    dropping in size will probably mess up your speedo but not sure

  15. #13
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Ashburn VA
    Posts
    381
    I have to echo many of the thoughts above, it is not the truck. The issue is the 20 inch rims and tires. Bite the bullet andgo back to16, 17, or 18 inch wheels.

  16. #14
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Jersey
    Posts
    2,179
    If you aired down to 18, I will have to agree it is the big rims. If you run around on 12 or less you have the issue of breaking the bead loose if you hit a hole.

    Here is a suggestion.

    If a new set of tires/rims is over $1000

    Buy a beater dedicated beach truck.

    I am thinking about an Escalade, now I will have to check if they come with smaller rims than 20".

    Garbo would have a difficult time if I am buried to the frame in a $85K Cadillac and have all you fellas in Toyotas driving by, refusing to stop and help and laughing at me
    Last edited by Garboman; 09-15-2016 at 10:56 AM.

  17. #15
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Leechburg Pa
    Posts
    25
    I have a 2016 f150 with Goodyear 275/65/18 tires and stock 18 x 7.5 wheels and haven't had any problems aired down to 18 psi. I've been on all the beaches from Avon to Okracoke and can travel any part of the beach without having to worry about staying in the ruts. My old 2009 f150 had 275/55/20 factory wheels and tires aired to 18 psi and never had any problems with it either. Make sure the truck is actually going into 4wd and that the integrated wheel ends (that uses vacuum to work) are all working correctly. If you are still looking to go to 18s the sport model 18s with tires and sensors can be had on ebay or local craigslist for less than 1000 dollars. What is the story with your wheels that you mentioned about?

  18. #16
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Location
    Pa
    Posts
    34
    any thoughts on your traction control system? i noticed that the traction control on my wrangler is very obtrusive. you have to turn it off. it won't bury you but it''ll cut power and apply brakes and really slow your roll. do you have any mechanical traction aids like a limited slip or lockers front or rear?

  19. #17
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Wilmington
    Posts
    2,767
    Hey Garbo, you can get a set of 18s for it, just won't look right without the 26" rims with spinners

  20. #18
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Jersey
    Posts
    2,179
    Quote Originally Posted by NC KingFisher View Post
    Hey Garbo, you can get a set of 18s for it, just won't look right without the 26" rims with spinners
    I am off the Escalade at the moment, it is pretty inside but runs on stock 22's which evidently are a prescription for being buried to the frame rails

    Probably just ride the beaches in my Grand Cherokee anyway what was once a 37K vehicle is now a 3.7K vehicle after depreciation sets in....or buy a beater F150 from a non-sand-salt environment.
    Last edited by Garboman; 09-19-2016 at 12:04 PM.

  21. #19
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Queen City, NC
    Posts
    1,371
    Quote Originally Posted by surfchunker View Post
    dropping in size will probably mess up your speedo but not sure
    It is the over all diameter you need to worry about. So long as it stays the same you do not have to change anything

  22. #20
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Queen City, NC
    Posts
    1,371
    Quote Originally Posted by PGHSteelworker View Post
    What is the story with your wheels that you mentioned about?
    I ordered my truck from my Mom's boyfriend (he owns a Ford dealership). I ordered the truck that I have now: 2015 S'CREW, FX4, 4wd, Lariet, 3.5 EB, etc etc etc with 18" chrome wheels and AT tires that come with the FX4 pkg.

    Long story short my truck was supposed to be delivered a week after I sold my Tundra. 2 MONTHS later I still had no truck. Thank god I have a buddy who runs a Budget rental place or I would have been up a creek in rental cost. Anyway....THey pulled my truck from the production line for some special rotorooter style QA inspection where they tear the whole truck apart down to the frame then rebuild it. They only do it to 3 special order trucks a year and my Irish luck is mine was pulled.

    Soooooooo, Greg (Dealer) calls me and tells me he had to go up to the top of the company to find this out. My truck had no delivery ETA while in the QA thing. So he offered to find me another truck. Well he found one, the only differences was that it was dark grey (original was silver) and had the 20" wheels. So thats the story

  23. #21
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Queen City, NC
    Posts
    1,371
    Garbo, find a tundra

  24. #22
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Apex, NC
    Posts
    77
    That's odd. Ive had my 2012 eco boost up and down every beach on the outer banks and never had one problem (sadly it's posted for sale in the market place).
    You've made me nervous though with this thread bc I just bought a 2500 Duramax for a slide in camper to fish portsmouth that came with 20 inch wheels.

  25. #23
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Queen City, NC
    Posts
    1,371
    With that much extra weight stay high up away from the soft and wet. you are knocking on 10,000#. Will sink like a rock in soft sand. I am currently shopping for 18" factory wheel set for the truck. I may just keep the 20" or sell them to finance the wheels. That or I am going to sell some bourbon to finance my truck upgrades

  26. #24
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Location
    Midway NC
    Posts
    57
    It's been a while, but I used to have an '04 Ram that had 20's and I never had a problem, either aired down or not (tried both just to put it through it's paces). I found the softest sand I could find, which was around ramp 55 and it did fine. I guess mileage will vary.

  27. #25
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Location
    South Carolina
    Posts
    179
    It ain't the truck. Those 20's don't have enough sidewall, put no more than 20 lbs in some 17's and she'll become a sand beast. (find you a buddy that has some wheels and tires you can swap and do a test dive).


Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •