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Phillyfanatic
07-23-2016, 01:41 PM
I certainly appreciate all of the good folks that frequent these boards and give wonderful advice. I haven't been to Outer Banks in about twenty years. Used to go there regularly before 1995, so it's been a while. Taking my wife and two daughters to Hatteras 8/14-8/21 which incidentally has the full moon hitting around 8/16-8/18.

My wife and at least one of my daughters love to fish, so I've got four surf rods and four sand spikes as well as an assortment of river rigs already using size 2 circle hooks. Also have a decent assortment of Gotcha plugs just in case I see water churning. Didn't get too crazy with the equipment. 10 foot Shakespeare Ugly Stick, a pair of 9 foot Tsunami five stars and a 7 foot Tsunami five star for my 11 year old to handle. She loves to fish! Anyway, basic stuff...nothing like the equipment I use for fresh water fishing.

I was hoping the locals might offer some advice to help make it a great week. Quite frankly I hope to catch a few Pompano and if I'm lucky catch a citation. We'll eat some of it, but I get a good amount of satisfaction out of giving good eating fish away to local fisherman who are either enjoying the hunt or actually fishing for their meals.

Here's what I'm curious about...We are staying at Durant Station in Hatteras. I think we are within a couple miles of ramp 55. How's the surf fishing right out in front of Durant Station for those that know where that is? Do I really need to go down to ramp 55? If so, how far is it? Why would I want to go down to ramp 55? Is there a better place to be fishing near Durant Station than ramp 55?

Also, any advice on bait would be very helpful. Naturally I know about sand fleas. My daughters claim to be experts at catching sand fleas, so they are pretty excited about that. I imagine I'm going to want some fresh shrimp. Was thinking about getting a couple bags of fishbites. Wondering if anyone had any other suggestions related to bait or for that matter anything else for our trip.

Thank you in advance for the advice and good fishing to all!

Phillyfanatic
07-24-2016, 10:54 AM
Still looking for advice on the area near Durant Station. Any good right there or do I really need to get on down to ramp 55 third week of August? How far from Ramp 55 is it?

River
07-24-2016, 12:27 PM
I've caught a lot of nice Sea Mullet, a few nice Pompano and some keeper Flounder near and in front of Durant Station Condos ...... the times I've fished that area .... there was always a nice bar with some humps and cuts in it, most of the time it's just barely north of Durant but it can move overnight, if you're staying on the third floor where I've spent a lot of time, you'll be able to spot everything pretty easy ... In front of Durant has good fishing, when they open up that section of beach for driving in November... you'll see a lot of local fisherman driving to that area to fish .... your problem may be swimmers directly in front of the Condo's .... if so, walk north just past the last house, just outside Hatteras Village ... there's always a nice area there ... 55's several miles south at the end of the highway, you'll have to get a beach driving permit, good fishing if you find the right spot, usually packed with swimmers at the walkover.... Durant Stations a nice place, Have fun and hope you catch a citation .... SANDFLEAS !! ... River

Phillyfanatic
07-24-2016, 02:24 PM
I've caught a lot of nice Sea Mullet, a few nice Pompano and some keeper Flounder near and in front of Durant Station Condos ...... the times I've fished that area .... there was always a nice bar with some humps and cuts in it, most of the time it's just barely north of Durant but it can move overnight, if you're staying on the third floor where I've spent a lot of time, you'll be able to spot everything pretty easy ... In front of Durant has good fishing, when they open up that section of beach for driving in November... you'll see a lot of local fisherman driving to that area to fish .... your problem may be swimmers directly in front of the Condo's .... if so, walk north just past the last house, just outside Hatteras Village ... there's always a nice area there ... 55's several miles south at the end of the highway, you'll have to get a beach driving permit, good fishing if you find the right spot, usually packed with swimmers at the walkover.... Durant Stations a nice place, Have fun and hope you catch a citation .... SANDFLEAS !! ... River
Thanx, River. Are you the one that used to work (or maybe still do) at Teach's Lair? If so let me know where and which days. I'd love to stop in and meet you. I'm sure a ten minute conversation with you nets someone a lot of knowledge they didn't know before. Teach's Lair is on my to do list for this trip and next year a charter out of Teach's Marina is on the to do list.

ncdead
07-24-2016, 03:28 PM
Thanx, River. Are you the one that used to work (or maybe still do) at Teach's Lair? If so let me know where and which days. I'd love to stop in and meet you. I'm sure a ten minute conversation with you nets someone a lot of knowledge they didn't know before. Teach's Lair is on my to do list for this trip and next year a charter out of Teach's Marina is on the to do list.
If you are planning a charter out of teaches lair I recommend captain willie on the 'twin bills'... He's a great guy but works without a mate. Been fishing with him for five or six years and always enjoy our trips with him. About a thousand bucks for an offshore trip.

River
07-25-2016, 12:35 PM
Yes that was me Phillyfanatic, left a couple years ago due to health problem now I'm trying to move back ....... I really miss the place and the friends I met while working there, they have a great fleet of inshore and offshore boats at Teachs Lair Marina .... Twin Bills is a great boat as ncdead stated, but there's a lot of great Captain's running boats out of Teachs ...... stop in and see Jam or Terry, they know what's happening .... but don't forget Frisco Rod and Gun ..... got lots of friends there too, and that young man called "Tater" is bustin full of fishin knowledge .... Thanks for the compliment, best of luck and give us a fishin report while you're there ..... Medium to small fresh SANDFLEAS ..... River
By the way, theres a webcam live feed mounted on the south end of Durant Station Condo's, it can be found on Outter Beaches Reality ... webcam but I can't get it to pull up on my tablet, maybe someone else can, good view if the lens is clean ...

Phillyfanatic
07-25-2016, 01:36 PM
Yes that was me Phillyfanatic, left a couple years ago due to health problem now I'm trying to move back ....... I really miss the place and the friends I met while working there, they have a great fleet of inshore and offshore boats at Teachs Lair Marina .... Twin Bills is a great boat as ncdead stated, but there's a lot of great Captain's running boats out of Teachs ...... stop in and see Jam or Terry, they know what's happening .... but don't forget Frisco Rod and Gun ..... got lots of friends there too, and that young man called "Tater" is bustin full of fishin knowledge .... Thanks for the compliment, best of luck and give us a fishin report while you're there ..... Medium to small fresh SANDFLEAS ..... River
By the way, theres a webcam live feed mounted on the south end of Durant Station Condo's, it can be found on Outter Beaches Reality ... webcam but I can't get it to pull up on my tablet, maybe someone else can, good view if the lens is clean ...
Thanx for the info. Outter Beaches Realty is how I found out about Durant Station and I've been looking at the webcam feed quite a bit, but never seem to catch anyone out there fishing. Can't wait to get out to Hatteras. Wanting to make a week there a regular going forward and maybe look for a vacation home while there. I'll make sure to stop in at Frisco Rod and Gun. Our check in isn't until 4PM and we are driving from Pittsburgh to Norfolk Saturday, staying over night and leaving out Sunday morning from Norfolk. I planned to tell the wife and kids that we have time to kill before check in so we might as well stop in at a local bait shop. I'll make Frisco Rod and Gun that stop on Sunday morning!

River
07-25-2016, 03:05 PM
Wrong time of year to have many people fishing behind Durant .... and it's not because the fish aren't there, it because the experienced fisherman on Hatteras will not carry their stuff that far when ramp 49's about 2 miles north and 55's a few miles south where they can drive out and fish right outta their truck, come November you'll see plenty of trucks on that stretch of beach .... Have fun, River

Phillyfanatic
07-25-2016, 05:32 PM
I'm stoked. I feel like a schoolboy looking at the calendar every day for the last day of school.

SurFeesher
07-25-2016, 09:44 PM
Stayed in the cabanas right next to Durant's, even stayed in the hotel that was there before Isabelle wiped it out. Always had good luck fishing there. Caught my first drum there in fact (In November). Had good luck at 55 too. Stayed at my boss' house for free in Kill Devil Hills past few years, including last week. Very slow up there and the 2 times we drove down to Hatteras too. Time of year not the best. You should do well when you go. Starts heating up fishing wise that time of year. Love Frisco Rod 'N Gun also. Have a great time!

John

Phillyfanatic
07-25-2016, 10:06 PM
Wondering what people think of the full moon in relation to fishing Hatteras. I get there 8/14-8/21 and the full moon is 8/18.

River
07-26-2016, 10:31 AM
I don't pay much attention to moon phase, you're stuck with what you got ..... pray for nice weather and calm seas ..... things can get nasty down that way, I've personally experience it, right many times ....

surfchunker
07-26-2016, 12:10 PM
if your after bigger fish the full / new moon puts high tide at dark and can be a great chance for something big if conditions are right , a number 2 hook is getting pretty big for pomps and sand fleas, I use 6's mostly and do great on pomps and sea mullet with them

surfchunker
07-26-2016, 12:13 PM
Thanx for the info. Outter Beaches Realty is how I found out about Durant Station and I've been looking at the webcam feed quite a bit, but never seem to catch anyone out there fishing. Can't wait to get out to Hatteras. Wanting to make a week there a regular going forward and maybe look for a vacation home while there. I'll make sure to stop in at Frisco Rod and Gun. Our check in isn't until 4PM and we are driving from Pittsburgh to Norfolk Saturday, staying over night and leaving out Sunday morning from Norfolk. I planned to tell the wife and kids that we have time to kill before check in so we might as well stop in at a local bait shop. I'll make Frisco Rod and Gun that stop on Sunday morning!

hope you don't get stuck in traffic, we always come on down 295 to exit 3 and take 460 down to Suffix and miss all the traffic,

River
07-26-2016, 01:04 PM
Surfchunker's right, if you get a high tide late in the afternoon and the waters crystal clear, the Spanish will run in close behind Durant, I've been involved on a couple occasions, one of the Condo owner caught one there that weighed over 6 lbs a couple years ago ..... get you a glass minnow for that 10' rod and be sure to run three are more feet of fluorocarbon line between the glass minnow and the main line .... River

1SHOT1KILL
07-26-2016, 01:07 PM
A lot of things have changed over the years, as things/places have come and gone, but some of the old land marks are still there. I was unable to get down to the OBX for about 6-7 years do to multiple deployments from 2003-2010 and when I finally did get back on the islands (Hatteras and Ocracoke) I was amazed how they had grown and changed. But like I said many of the old land marks are still there so you will recognize them.

Don't rule out ramp 43 where the lighthouse once stood. You can park in the parking lot and it is a short walk to the surf and jetty. Ramp 49 is good for whiting and pompano's and 55 is as well and blues and the occasional flounder. If you can get to the inlet blues, flounder and mackerel can be caught.

River
07-27-2016, 10:48 AM
And word is ..... Cape Point just opened for driving, Ramp 44 ....... lot of people gonna be happy bout that ..

Phillyfanatic
07-27-2016, 02:30 PM
I'm kicking around the idea of taking the family out for a day on the Twin Bills out of Teach's. Send him an e-mail a few minutes ago to get details and dates. I'm itching for some wahoo and dorado.

1SHOT1KILL
07-27-2016, 05:33 PM
And word is ..... Cape Point just opened for driving, Ramp 44 ....... lot of people gonna be happy bout that ..

A big 10-4 on that. The Red Drum TS put that out this morning.

ncdead
07-27-2016, 10:31 PM
I'm kicking around the idea of taking the family out for a day on the Twin Bills out of Teach's. Send him an e-mail a few minutes ago to get details and dates. I'm itching for some wahoo and dorado.

Glad to hear it. It doesn't appear to be hot and heavy offshore of hatteras right now, but if you go I hope you and the family have a good time. Captain Willie is a really good guy. Tell him Dave, Relana, Mary Catherine and Tom will see him in October.

spydermn
07-28-2016, 02:06 PM
I cannot recommed anyone from Teach's but JAM is a great help and will not steer you wrong.

As far as guides go, if you want inshore check out Steve Gwin on the Hang On out of Hatteras Harbor. We ALWAYS have a good trip with Steve, with our last trip out with him landing almost 50 reds when we found a huge feeding school. BEST DAY OF FISHING I HAVE EVER HAD, and I have had some other good days! https://www.facebook.com/steve.gwin.12

TomW
07-28-2016, 09:03 PM
Another tackle shop you could try is Pelicans Roost (next to Rocco's pizza). Steve is normally there in the afternoons and has always given me good advise.

Phillyfanatic
07-29-2016, 02:44 PM
Just fired off the e-mail to Willie Foster of the Twin Bills to reserve a full day Tuesday, August 16 for wahoo and mahi. I'm pretty stoked. Hoping to show my 11 and 13 year old daughters a great time fishing. My 11 year old has been begging me all year to take her fishing. My wife loves to fish. The 13 year old doesn't have a preference either way. I showed the kids the video off of the Twin Bills website and they got really excited. It's 5 minutes from one trip where they caught a load of mahi and a very nice wahoo.

Here's the video:

https://youtu.be/7Z0_qc8_2Vo

TomW
07-31-2016, 02:48 PM
I have fished in the fall near Durant with good luck. As River said, you need to study the bar, best from your balcony at low tide. There are places where it can run towards shore and be shallow. So as he said, study for cuts in the bar and some deeper areas.

Phillyfanatic
07-31-2016, 03:27 PM
So if I can find the bar, where and when should I fish it? Should I fish it at high tide or low tide? Should I fish beyond it, on it or just in front of it? Is there no right or wrong answer to those questions?

I'm taking a 7 foot, two 9 foot and a 10 foot rod with me with sand spikes. I figure I can canvass the bar, but I'm a bit inexperienced with surf fishing. Wouldn't mind more advice.

surfchunker
07-31-2016, 03:36 PM
I make sure I always am there from slack pre to post high tide. low tide is great for seeing the structure but a lot of time sucks fishing

surfchunker
07-31-2016, 03:38 PM
fish can be hard to predict. if you have more than one rod I start one close or in the trough, one against the bar, on the bar and over the bar, cuts in the bar are the best place or humps can be awesome too. just start fishing and find where they are today

1SHOT1KILL
08-01-2016, 05:37 PM
So if I can find the bar, where and when should I fish it? Should I fish it at high tide or low tide? Should I fish beyond it, on it or just in front of it? Is there no right or wrong answer to those questions?

I'm taking a 7 foot, two 9 foot and a 10 foot rod with me with sand spikes. I figure I can canvass the bar, but I'm a bit inexperienced with surf fishing. Wouldn't mind more advice.

For bottom fish such as whitings, croakers, spots, pompano, etc., you will catch more of them right behind the breakers in the surf. So there is no need to cast 50yds or 100yds out. You got 3 rods, so I would start with 2 of them maybe 15-20 feet behind the breakers and your third rod about 50 feet behind the breakers. No need to cast out to the bar (depending on if it is within casting distance) and definitely no need to cast over it, unless the bar is extremely close to shore, because usually the current is much stronger on the far sand of the bar and your rigs will most likely wash. Once you find the fish you can stick with 2 rods to bottom fish with and have one rod on standby rigged up with a metal spoon like a 1oz-1.5oz Hopkins, stingsilvers, or local handpainted dart minnow plugs to cast for blues and Spanish.

Phillyfanatic
08-11-2016, 07:27 PM
How concerned should I be about bugs while surf fishing next week? If all I am doing is surf fishing in front of Durant Station at Hatteras as well as spending a day on a boat off-shore, do I need to be concerned about bugs? If so, what should I have with me? (I don't really care for me, but my 11 and 13 year old daughters will care...)

surfchunker
08-11-2016, 09:59 PM
usually only bugs are the green meanies (biting flies) and then you only usually have to worry about them when the wind is blowing from the dunes to the beach direction, if they are biting nothing deters them

1SHOT1KILL
08-12-2016, 09:44 AM
Get your self some Hawaiian Tropic Dry Tanning Oil (the aerosol kind) and spray down with that. It will keep those pesky biting black flies off you. Re-apply regularly as needed. Also if you can find some Mo's OBX Skeeter Beater insect spray you can use it as well, as it works pretty good.

Phillyfanatic
08-12-2016, 11:23 PM
Getting ready to make the drive from Pittsburgh to Norfolk tomorrow. Spend the night at Homewood Suites using my Hilton Honors points and then a short drive Sunday morning to Hatteras.

Get out on the balcony to find the sand bar by Durant Station on Sunday night and then fish the sand bar bright and early on Monday morning.

Tuesday is a full day on the Twin Bills. I hope to have pretty pictures of Pomps, Wahoo and Mahi to post throughout the week!

Phillyfanatic
08-15-2016, 06:06 PM
Day one is in the books. My wife and kids wanted to get up with me at 4:15AM to go out and fish. High tide was a 5:37AM and I wanted to get set up before the tide was completely in.

Yesterday my daughters were all over sand fleas. They found a bucket full. This morning they had no interest. Did not have many sand fleas. We used cut shrimp, Shrimp fish bites and some sand fleas with fishbites EZ Flea. It was difficult to keep the shrimp on our hooks. They sucked off the hooks too easily.

We did catch a small pompano, three blues and about ten mullet before 10AM.

The highlight of the morning was casting with a river rig with shrimp and feeling an immediate hit upon hitting the water. I gave the rod to my 11 year old daughter who reeled it in and all of a sudded bluefish about 15 inches long came out of the water but then all of a sudden on the second hook coming out of the water was a second bluefish that was about 16 inches long. My daughter was so excited and it made our morning. She also caught the little pompano that we successfully released. I'll try to post the video of her pulling in the double bluefish later.

Tomorrow we have a full day on the Twin Bills out of Teach's Lair. Mahi and wahoo have been strong over the last ten days. They've been catching some blackfin tuna, too. Weather should be great. Hoping for a great day on the water tomorrow.

surfchunker
08-15-2016, 10:08 PM
congrats, glad to hear you had a great day

twbranch
08-16-2016, 04:19 AM
Man I stay in those cabanas next door to the Durant condos a lot. I have fished about 300 yards north of the last house and just for fun and I am still a novice and I mean novice fisherman (if you can call me that). I have caught bluefish out there a lot but nothing really to show pictures of or brag about. I just stopped at Frisco R&G an asked them. They sold me what I needed and advised about that tides and stuff. It worked. I was reeling them in quite frequently. There were crappy days and better days. To me it was the experience I gained and now I can't wait to get back down there next year to do it all again. Good luck and have fun. I now want to catch a charter.

Phillyfanatic
08-16-2016, 07:03 PM
I took the family out on the Twin Bills today. Unfortunately, it was wicked hot and the water was about 89 degrees. We had two hits all day and brought in 2 nice wahoo. Got about 50 lbs of filets out of them. My daughters caught them both.

Phillyfanatic
08-16-2016, 07:13 PM
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River
08-16-2016, 09:27 PM
Nice Wahoo's .... congratulations !

ncdead
08-16-2016, 09:36 PM
Well...glad you got a couple, we've had worse days offshore. Sorry you guys didn't get a few dolphin. Hope y'all had a good time.

ncdead
08-16-2016, 09:52 PM
Wahoo sure are pretty aren't they? Tasty too. Nice pics.

twbranch
08-17-2016, 01:55 AM
yum Wahoo!

Phillyfanatic
07-20-2017, 10:24 PM
Getting ready to make the trip to Hatteras again second week of August. Already have a full day off-shore booked on the Longer Days with Captain Tom Randall. Looking for a good captain for a half day in-shore for blues and spanish mackeral if anyone knows a good captain. Actually, interested in a female captain since I'm taking my wife and 12 and year old daughters. Anyone have any suggestions for a good female captain out at Teach's Lair or at one of the marinas near Teach's Lair?