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    Power Pro Superslick 8 vs Suffix 832

    Looking to spool up a freshwater/light saltwater outfit w/ my new Shimano Nasci 2500 spinning reel.

    What 10# test braid would be best? ie: wind knots, knot strength, and casting distance.
    I know the power pro=2#mono and Suffix 832=4#mono which I thought was quite large for a 10# braid.
    Kevin Van Dam swears by power pro for whatever that's worth. Most saltwater guys swear by the 832.

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    Been using j-braid since fall and it's treated me very well.

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    Been using standard Power Pro for saltwater for several years, but decided to try 20 lb Suffix 832 on a Penn Clash 3000 last year. I had a terrible problem with wind knots and switched back to Power Pro after a couple weeks. Didn't have any problems after that.

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    I have tried both and this is my observation.

    Power pro 8 superslick.
    Four rods rigged for casting hundreds of times a trip. The 8 had a few wind knots that could not be sorted out. After 3 months all four of the reels had lost too much line to use again. Had to cut the wind knots out. Tried my trick with the mashing of the knot with the teeth but it never once worked.

    Suffix 832.
    Same four rods with a fresh load of braid. After hundreds of casts only one required a cut out and that may have been operator error. I find that the 832 will release the knot by mashing between your teeth the knot and opening up the loops.
    In most cases I mash it down nice and flat and just pull the ends and it pops out clean. Ok here is the best part.. the line never degrades performance from the mashing effort.

    I have tried over 8 different braids and 832 is most manageable.

    Capt Mike

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    never used less than 50# braid, just spooled 3 reels with JB 20# will keep ya posted when I fish them
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    50 lb + regular power pro for conventional. It's a little more rope like. If packed tight and layed on level there is no dig in.

    J- braid on a spinner. 40 lb or less. Nice and limp, round, and no fraying. Hardly any noise. Flies through the guides well. Works very well with Shimano's line lay and spool lip.

    I have some 10 lb. Super slick on a bass spinner. The spare spool with 8 lb mono is going on soon. Don't matter what I throw it wind knots with that super slick. Could be the guides on the rod causing it....not sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by captmikestarrett View Post
    I have tried both and this is my observation.

    Power pro 8 superslick.
    Four rods rigged for casting hundreds of times a trip. The 8 had a few wind knots that could not be sorted out. After 3 months all four of the reels had lost too much line to use again. Had to cut the wind knots out. Tried my trick with the mashing of the knot with the teeth but it never once worked.

    Suffix 832.
    Same four rods with a fresh load of braid. After hundreds of casts only one required a cut out and that may have been operator error. I find that the 832 will release the knot by mashing between your teeth the knot and opening up the loops.
    In most cases I mash it down nice and flat and just pull the ends and it pops out clean. Ok here is the best part.. the line never degrades performance from the mashing effort.

    I have tried over 8 different braids and 832 is most manageable.

    Capt Mike
    Have you tried this J-braid Capt? It's made by Daiwa and is half the price of 832. See several guys use it and have had no problems.
    I've never heard of it til today. Heard of Samurai made by Daiwa which is quite pricey.
    Also thanks for the tip on mashing down a wind knot and pulling it out. Never heard of that either. Will have to try that.
    I just threw away a 150yd spool of 8# Tuf-line...wind knot after wind knot. Never had that problem w/ 10# power pro regular.

    Thanks for everyone's inputs and keep them coming.

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    If you are talking about Jerry Brown then yes.. Best jigging line ever.

    Capt Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by CYT View Post
    Have you tried this J-braid Capt? It's made by Daiwa and is half the price of 832. See several guys use it and have had no problems.
    I've never heard of it til today. Heard of Samurai made by Daiwa which is quite pricey.
    Also thanks for the tip on mashing down a wind knot and pulling it out. Never heard of that either. Will have to try that.
    I just threw away a 150yd spool of 8# Tuf-line...wind knot after wind knot. Never had that problem w/ 10# power pro regular.

    Thanks for everyone's inputs and keep them coming.
    There is technically no "which is better". It's a preference, or, technique thing. Buy em and try em. You'll find one you absolutely love. Every rod/reel/fishing/casting technique is different.

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    My buddy I fish with a lot (you've seen pics) used to fish standard power pro too. He has since switched to j-braid in the last 2 weeks and prefers it. The price is very friendly too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kurazy kracka View Post
    My buddy I fish with a lot (you've seen pics) used to fish standard power pro too. He has since switched to j-braid in the last 2 weeks and prefers it. The price is very friendly too.
    Yeah, after doing some research, there's 4 strand and 8 strand.
    Guys on the SOL forum seem to love this stuff. The 8 strand seems to rival 832, with substantial savings.
    Found dark green 10# 150m=165yds for $13 on Amazon Prime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by captmikestarrett View Post
    If you are talking about Jerry Brown then yes.. Best jigging line ever.

    Capt Mike
    No, Daiwa J-Braid

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    Have you looked into Berkley Nanofil? The guy that I know that uses it says he has had no issues with it. All he uses is spinners when on the pier and has done well with it. Pretty cheap for spool of 150 and 300 yds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wkndfishlife View Post
    Have you looked into Berkley Nanofil? The guy that I know that uses it says he has had no issues with it. All he uses is spinners when on the pier and has done well with it. Pretty cheap for spool of 150 and 300 yds
    Just back into town.

    Yeah, I'm giving that stuff a serious look at for my fresh/lite saltwater spinning outfit.
    Reviews that I read:

    Pros: casts way better than anything on the market and flies off the reel
    super strong
    thin per #test like braid but is not braid, flouro or mono
    most importantly: absolutely NO wind knots when throwing lighter lures

    Cons: can only be used for spinning reels
    polamar and only a couple of other knots can only be used, semi clinch don't work
    mostly used for lighter line applications like 2# t0 20# max is all that's available

    Fine by me; all I use is Palomar knots and uni to uni to tie to leader material
    I gotta give this stuff a try. I've used Berkely products for years and usually doesn't dissapoint
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    I have been using Nanofil for several years. It will outcast any of the braids, is small diameter and very strong. I very seldom get any wind knots with it. The biggest con is it likes to belly in the wind when casting but that is not too much of a problem. Tie a double Palomar knot directly to lure, snap or swivel and an "ugly Knot" when tying to mono leaders. All that said, some guys don't like it-to each his own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Norris View Post
    I have been using Nanofil for several years. It will outcast any of the braids, is small diameter and very strong. I very seldom get any wind knots with it. The biggest con is it likes to belly in the wind when casting but that is not too much of a problem. Tie a double Palomar knot directly to lure, snap or swivel and an "ugly Knot" when tying to mono leaders. All that said, some guys don't like it-to each his own.
    Did not know it's been out there that long....good info.

    What's an ugly knot Jerry?

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ID:	32810An "Ugly Knot" is one that I got from Joe Yack who said he got if from Skip Zink and who knows where Skip got it from! Basically you take the main line and leader and lay them parallel to each other. Then form a loop in both line and leader and pass the tag ends of both line and leader through the loop four or five times, moisten and pull tight. It is about the only knot that I use for line to leader anymore. The only drawback is that it will not pass smoothly through the guides on the rod, but I seldom tie leaders that are long enough to need to be wound through the guides. The illustration shows it being used for tandem lures, for a single lure, place one end of the leader even with the end of the main line and tie the knot. Then trim the mainline and short leg of the leader. I used the tandem set up with flutter jigs and a dropper fly exclusively last summer/fall for numerous doubles on rock up to 24 inches and only had one knot failure when I mistakenly tried to lift a set of large doubles onboard by the 12 lb. Nanofil instead of grabbing the 30# leader.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Norris View Post
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ID:	32810An "Ugly Knot" is one that I got from Joe Yack who said he got if from Skip Zink and who knows where Skip got it from! Basically you take the main line and leader and lay them parallel to each other. Then form a loop in both line and leader and pass the tag ends of both line and leader through the loop four or five times, moisten and pull tight. It is about the only knot that I use for line to leader anymore. The only drawback is that it will not pass smoothly through the guides on the rod, but I seldom tie leaders that are long enough to need to be wound through the guides. The illustration shows it being used for tandem lures, for a single lure, place one end of the leader even with the end of the main line and tie the knot. Then trim the mainline and short leg of the leader. I used the tandem set up with flutter jigs and a dropper fly exclusively last summer/fall for numerous doubles on rock up to 24 inches and only had one knot failure when I mistakenly tried to lift a set of large doubles onboard by the 12 lb. Nanofil instead of grabbing the 30# leader.
    Funny, I use that same knot when tying the main line to leader material(mostly flouro).
    I only go thru the loop 3 times tho. Seems to work. I've landed 100# Cownose without a break. I typically use a 3' leader.

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    I think I will try 8# j-braid if I can find it on line or at Walmart. About 20 miles one way to closes tackle shop for me.

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    I just ordered j-braid 8# from Amazon. $ !2.98 150 yards. No shipping charge in April.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andypat View Post
    I just ordered j-braid 8# from Amazon. $ !2.98 150 yards. No shipping charge in April.
    I think you'll like it. I like it more than PP. It does fade out a lil faster but it holds well. We landed some big fish in rocky areas with a few minor chaffes on the line and no issues this spring

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    just spooled up w/ 8# J-braid myself on my new Sahara 1000.
    Wacked a bunch of good size Hickories on my ultra lite....what a blast.

    got mine on EBAY... this stuff is the bomb! Smooth as silk like PP super slick and casts as well as 832 at half the price...amazing stuff.

    Just ordered 330yds of 20# and 50# for my saltwater outfits as well for the low low price of $18.99 ea.

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    Dang cyt, I'm shopping at the wrong place. Got my 330yd spools for $20-25 at dicks, but I also had a 20% off coupon, it's not my favorite store.

    Where have you been catching hickories? I've been checking deer creek/Susquehanna and they're not quite there yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajv5148 View Post
    Dang cyt, I'm shopping at the wrong place. Got my 330yd spools for $20-25 at dicks, but I also had a 20% off coupon, it's not my favorite store.

    Where have you been catching hickories? I've been checking deer creek/Susquehanna and they're not quite there yet
    Check out EBAY...a store up in Jersey...3 day delivery, no tax, free shipping. Dick's is hapless.

    Back at the spot today. Caught several of the high flying aerial acrobatic critters. lota fun on ultra lite tackle.....did OK. Unfortunately a ton of dink WP mixed in eating my darts.

    Guy upstream wacked em....every cast he was hooked up. I'm still a novice on these fish. Need to find me better darts. Mine kinda suck.
    Sorry dude, can't give up the spot...somewhere on the Choptank. Heard the water is all messed up on the lower Susky and Deer Creek.

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    I had spooled up one of my rods with J-Braid late last summer but did not get a chance to use it all that much. From what little use I had it seemed good. I used it on the flats and for white perch in the river yesterday. I like it very well, no wind knots but time will tell once the coating gets a little age and wear and tear. It casts well but not as good as Nanofil. I am a line watcher and like the chartreuse color because I can see hits that are never felt on the rod.

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